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Re: “The Kelvynator

And this is exactly why I will never vote for a Millcreek City. Since Cottonwood Heights became a city it has become a "veritable den of thieves" at the city government level. The local mayor-wannabees wail about local control, and when they get it the fall all over themselves to line their pockets with develop money. No thanks.

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Posted by crznhwy1 on 10/28/2015 at 2:56 PM

Re: “The Kelvynator

I absolutely agree. Dirty tactics and bullying should never be allowed. At least it is being exposed this time. I wonder how many times it goes on throughout the rest of our towns. We should not let this happen

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Posted by jcase on 10/28/2015 at 2:34 PM

Re: “The Kelvynator

When I moved to Utah in 1992, I skied obsessively at Brighton. At the end of almost every ski day, I'd drop into the Canyon Inn for a beer or two (or three, plus a shot). I was new to Utah and felt so welcome at the Canyon In that I decided to stay - in Utah, that is. D.J.'s Beer Garden, The Cotton Bottom Inn, The Zephyr, the Canyon Inn .... all gone but for one. Those are the places I loved, which makes Utah today a little harder to love.

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Posted by Ted Scheffler on 10/28/2015 at 9:51 PM

Re: “The Kelvynator

CI was firstest date for me and my wife! 39th anniversary Friday! Thanks, Canyon Inn! Bite me, Kottonwood City Kops Krooks!

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Posted by Marshall Ralph on 10/28/2015 at 4:57 PM

Re: “Mayor Migraine

As a west sider and and former Planning Commissioner, I find this narrative not just hilariously wrong but driven by a misunderstanding of how the City works. For example, the interface of City Creek and the rest of downtown was the result of hard work and hearings by numerous City boards who continuously pressed the developers for a more open design. It was not magic. Moreover, the way the liquor laws were implemented by City zoning were the direct result, again, of hard work by City staff, volunteers and Council people. And apparently, Saltas has no clue of the amount of collaborative work and outreach that went into putting together a new West Side master plan which will provide a blueprint for development in Poplar Grove and Glendale. Similarly, the City adopted transit oriented planning which is driving much of the development along North Temple. There are reasons (not liking the parking for example) not to vote for Ralph (who by the way served the City as a volunteer Planning Commissioner before joining the legislature) but uninformed reasons are just kind of sad.

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Posted by Mary on 10/07/2015 at 2:25 PM

Re: “The Kelvynator

My issue is that keeping the public safe, & coos doing their job is great! Please dont stop, however, I think most people are failing to realize that their is a large amount of dirty laundry here that is being swept under the rug because we are meant to think, "Thats whats supposed to happen?!" I am upset that a business is being taken away from a man who has lived & breathed it all his life, & it was meant to go to his son, but since we have some deep pockets & powerful people who have been in bed with the mayor, we are just to look the other way? This is wrong, & it will be exposed. There are bad people working on this deal, & if porcupine grill & 7-11 go, all the sudden, a large new shiny facility will go up, because bullying was allowed. Not cool.

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Posted by bigooss on 10/29/2015 at 5:44 PM

Re: “Prison Follies

Amen. The people and property owners in Draper knew the prison was there when they made their investments. Why now move it to one of the only places one can afford to buy a family home in a peaceful safe community. We didn't sign up for this. If you think, well it's NIMBY so it does not affect me - well consider the waste of all of our tax dollars - no matter where you live. It is shameful

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Posted by concerned84045 on 12/25/2014 at 7:53 AM

Re: “The Kelvynator

LDS mafia did the job. If no 10% church "protection fee" involved...

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Posted by slcartist on 10/28/2015 at 4:36 PM

Re: “The Kelvynator

Thanks John, for the article,
I knew this was going on, but since I live much further north now, I rarely have the time to go to the places of our youth. I'm pretty sure we enjoyed an adult beverage together at the Canyon Inn. We are slowly losing these comfortable places to relax and enjoy the company of friends and to also make some new ones. There are a few new establishments that are welcoming, but many of the newer ones are all about table turnover, get in eat and get out. No Loitering! I feel sorrow that this has happened before I could muster the courage to go to the CI one more time. I was recently stopped while walking from a public transportation stop to my home, after having a couple of drinks with dinner and deciding not to drive. I didn't get arrested nor did I receive a citation, probably because I was only two blocks from home and was able to explain what I was doing in the neighborhood late at night.
I feel, we as citizens are losing our rights a bit at a time, so slowly we are not noticing the changes.
Sorry everyone for rambling, I couldn't help it. Lynn Larsen BHS Alum.

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Posted by Lynn Larsen on 10/29/2015 at 6:00 PM

Re: “Prison Follies

When I was small, living in Riverton on Redwood Road, every once in a while we would get a warning of an escaped prisoner or two. I am like you, John, I don't recall that happening for a very, very long time.

I see grubby, greedy, grimy money generators scheming to churn a public entity for personal gain. It is unethical for any public servant to use his or her position to profit, either personally or on behalf of any person or corporate entity.

Someone is clearly planning an intricate path to many more dollars than may accrue to the State of Utah which is the only entity to consider. Other monies may be generated, but they will not flow the the State but to individuals and corporations after the sale of the land. However, when any financial plan is presented, the relatively small return to the State is deliberately obfuscated by stating total profits generated.

The "necessity" of a move is posited as the best solution to a "problem." This is a time-honored artifice to frame an argument to try to force an opinion. Once so framed, the idea becomes the center of the issue rather than the actual need, which is an upgrade and modernization to the prison.

Moving the prison anywhere is only one solution to the need. Having framed the issue as a move turns the argument into a need to strongly justify leaving it in Draper, rather than how to effectively use and remediate the current facility in a cost and time-effective manner.

Seen without the hand-waving, selling the current lands and structures is not in the best interest of the people of the State of Utah. It is an unveiled attempt to steal from them.

We have seen altogether too much corruption in our governance. This issue must not become another vehicle to breed more shady deals.

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Posted by Dan Crane on 12/25/2014 at 10:55 PM

Re: “Prison Follies

I will name the politician/criminals. Senators Greg Hughes, Brad Wilson, Jerry Stevenson... all the way up to Governor Herbert. It's the Utah State Legislature Real Estate Cabal.

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Posted by Amy Beck Saunders on 12/25/2014 at 5:37 PM

Re: “Prison Follies

Absolutely right on.

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Posted by MickeyBar on 12/24/2014 at 12:00 PM

Re: “Thanks, Mayor Velodrome

This is actually a very forward thinking and positive move for the city.

But your right about consistency, this should be implemented on more streets and for longer stretches.

To help you get up to speed on urban planning (since it seems like your pining for the 80's) I would suggest the documentary "Urbanized." (Free on Netflix and rated 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.)

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Posted by AnonymousCoward on 09/04/2014 at 10:56 AM

Re: “Thanks, Mayor Velodrome

The new parking layout also fucks with handicapped parking. Where curbside parking used to allow a wheelchair ramp to deploy on the sidewalk, the new parking forces the ramp to deploy at quite a steep angle, across the bike lane and right into the gutter.

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Posted by Jason Wessel on 09/03/2014 at 8:39 PM

Re: “Thanks, Mayor Velodrome

Im sorry your car-centric mindset cannot see the longterm urban planning strategy associated with designs like this that are happening all over the country.

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Posted by land_baron on 09/03/2014 at 6:12 PM

Re: “Thanks, Mayor Velodrome

"Everything was better twenty years ago," said the old people.

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Posted by feelingsoveryshy on 09/03/2014 at 5:09 PM

Re: “Thanks, Mayor Velodrome

I was recently in SLC and came upon the area on 300 South with the 'new' parking situation. It is the most ridiculous parking set up I have ever seen. I do hope that no one gets hurt in the time before someone figures out just how completely awful of a situation it is. Although, that is probably what it will take before any change is made, for someone to get hurt, which shouldn't be long now.

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Posted by Diane Emira on 09/03/2014 at 4:59 PM

Re: “The Kelvynator

jcase: you say it is being exposed. Yes, in this weekly newspaper, but what good will that do? Unless some deep-pocket bulldog wants to take the City on, there will be no change in the situation.

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Posted by Raymond Winn on 10/28/2015 at 10:28 PM

Re: “Ahhh. Love.

Are you people serious that you want some evidence of impropriety? How would you find evidence of something like that? Hacking their phones? Even then you likely wouldn't get much. The question of it being there is more than enough. A hypothetical: if you were in front a judicial panel made out of 3 people, and 2 of them happened to be in a relationship with each other, would you be suspicious of that decision making? They promise they're impartial, of course.

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Posted by Red on 05/14/2015 at 8:55 PM

Re: “Prison Follies

Love your candor about what this prison move is really about, thanks for speaking out!! Let's DO name these politicians and developers who will benefit from moving the prison...how those who sit on the PRC committee have direct ties with benefitting from this unnecessary move that Utah taxpayers are footing the bill for so a few people can get very rich. Sickening!!

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Posted by butterfly_maven on 12/25/2014 at 3:31 PM

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