As many theatre groups are now preparing for the new season to begin
next month, everyone is making an effort to top the successful run all groups
enjoyed during the last round. But one in particular not only had a great year,
it was practically showcased in the spotlight by all local media, seemingly from
out of nowhere. Even though this secret gem of Utah stage has been a part of
Rose Wagner since 2002.
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Pygmalion Theatre Company has been producing works focused on both the female
perspective as well as the GLBQT viewpoint, opening audiences up to very unique
works and performances that other companies don't offer. And with new found
exposure from last season's works, this upcoming set looks to continue that
tradition while entertaining the many who have just discovered its shows. I got
a chance to chat with the company's Artistic Director, Fran Pruyn, about
Pygmalion and its history as well as her time with them, plus thoughts on local
theatre and the upcoming season.
Fran
Pruyn
http://www.pygmalionproductions.org/
Gavin: Hey Fran! First off, tell
us a little about yourself.
Fran: I
was a military brat; grew up a little in a lot of places (Germany, Ohio,
Alabama) and mostly in Denver. I graduated from a small liberal arts College
known as Colorado Women's College, which is now part of the University of
Denver, with a BA in Theatre. Little side note here, CWC's theatre department
was co-educational, because it is hard to do much good theatre without both
sexes. The women's college thing however does figure significantly into the
Pygmalion theme - because it was there that I realized that when women don't
have men around they are forced to take leadership positions because they don't
have the option to abdicate those positions to men. I had started this little
theatre company, called New Shakespeare Players (and later called TheatreWorks
West) as my MFA project. It was exhausting and exhilarating. TWW moved
off-campus, and then lost our space. I went into theatre semi-retirement - doing
a show here and there - sometimes as a TWW project, sometimes for other
companies until Pygmalion. I have been on several non-profit boards: KRCL (I
chaired that one for quite a while), Utah Cultural Alliance, SMPS (Society for
Marketing Professional Services), Swerve and others. I am currently the Chair of
the Board of the Utah Pride Center. Oh and I am the Entertainment Director for
the Pride Festival - so I get to book folks like Paula Poundstone. I taught Gay
and Lesbian Theatre at the U for the last couple of years, which was a great
ride. I am on the Intermountain Wild Horse and Burro - Mustang Drill Team!!! We
(my partner and I) have 6 equines - 5 horses and 1 burro. I get to ride in
parades, which is totally amazing; the best!
Gavin:
For those who are unaware, what is Pygmalion Theatre
Company?
Fran: Pygmalion is a Salt Lake City-based
professional (which means we pay our actors) theatre company that is a tenant of
the Rose Wagner Theatre. Our mission statement is "to produce plays which
reflect issues, concerns and shared experiences in the lives of
women."
Gavin: How did the company originally get its
start?
Fran: Nancy Roth and Reb Fleming started the
company in Ogden in 1995. They wanted to do theatre that wasn't "feminist" as
much as from a "decidedly feminine prospective". They moved the company from
Ogden to SLC in 2002 and began to do shows at the Rose Wagner Theatre. Nancy and
David Roth really were the heart that kept the theatre company going - both
spiritually and financially. When the audiences weren't there at first, they
were to make up the difference, and take care of the cast and crew. Reb brought
enormous artistic integrity to the company: in the scripts she found, the
performances she gave, the sensitivity and professionalism she brought to the
work.
Gavin:
What's the response been like in being a theatre company that specifically
reflects on the female condition?
Fran: Sometimes I
don't think the response has been any different - people come to see shows they
want to see, actors audition for roles they want to play, and doing any art form
is difficult whether you are female or male or anything in between. I think what
is important is that the mission keeps us focused on what we think are important
stories that should be told - women's stories, and it gives more women an
opportunity to work in the theatre. Theoretically, it should also give us a
niche market… we probably need to work on that angle. Nancy and Reb never wanted
a "feminist" theatre company - and honestly I think we really aren't in the
business to make overt political statements as much as to do good theatre from a
female perspective, and well yes, that do have at least subversive political
statements. The thing is… theatre is a male-dominated industry. Most of the
producers are men, the directors are men, most of the published writers are men
-- and they want to do shows that reflect their concerns, their point of view.
Who doesn't? But, statistically it is women that come to theatre. Well women,
and gay men, and actors. So we think: let's do theatre that gives women an
opportunity to tell their story and to act, and direct, and produce. Our
thinking is that we would let those women (who come to the theatre) see stories
about themselves, AND let women have big roles and production opportunities.
This in no way excludes men. What good would that be? Women live in a world with
men - and mostly men they really enjoy. Heck, Sister Dottie is a show
written by two men and performed by two men (in drag). But it is from a woman's
point of view - and that, for us, makes all the difference.
Gavin:
The theatre has held a strong relationship with the GLBQT community over the
years. What's your take on the mutual support you've
had?
Fran: What is the line from Mel Brooks film,
To Be Or Not Yo Be? "What would theatre be without the Jews and the
Gays?" So many of our best actors, writers, playwrights are gay it is no wonder
that they have produced some of the most popular plays, which are, in turn,
attended by gay people and their families who gay people drag to see shows about
themselves. I'd be hard pressed to see a theatre company without a deep
relationship with the GLBQT community. On a more personal Pygmalion note, well,
hell, I'm queer. The first play I ever directed was The Children's
Hour. I am
the Chair of the Board of the Pride Center and truly believe that "the personal
is political." I guess this is my story, my cause, my life, my friends… so I
guess that translates into my art. I actively look for opportunities to tell
GLBQT stories - particularly those that resonate beyond the gay community and
work toward equality.
Gavin: How did you first get
involved with the company?
Fran: My good friend Barb
Gandy was in a Pygmalion Production -- The Food
Chain by
Nicky Silver - and when the director they originally had selected to do Beyond
Therapy had to cancel, she recommended me. I did the show… it sold well (but
that is because it is a really, really funny show), so they asked me to be on
the board.
Gavin:
What was it like for you directing your first production with
them?
Fran: Great! They took wonderful care of me.
They were kind and generous; they took care of all the production stuff, and I
just got to direct a wonderful cast in a very funny script. It was a delight. I
think Nancy and David took us all to the New Yorker after the final show.
Wow!
Gavin: Do you believe it a natural fit for the
company to take up home in the Rose Wagner?
Fran: It
is a great place to be. The County has a very good sense of what it takes to do
performances. Of course, it is a multi-use facility, which makes it a constant
juggling act. But it also means we don't have to have our own space, provide for
its upkeep, pay for someone to pay the bills, and pay the bills. The Rose Wagner
staff is really very supportive. For a small arts organization it is the perfect
scenario - and I believe it also serves the community because it allows small
companies with access to good artists to present good offerings. It would be
ever so much harder without a professionally run, attractive venue in which to
perform to attract an audience.
Gavin:
In total you have twenty productions to the company's name. What do you think of
the impact they've had on local theater?
Fran: Salt
Lake City has such a wonderful tradition of great art, of great theatre - I
think we all have had an impact because we bring stories to life. Our stories
are women's stories and I think that broadens the depth of offerings. I would
like to also think the impact that we have had is that more women have had more
on stage, back stage, and directorial
opportunities.
Gavin: The most recent play to achieve
major attention been The Passion Of Sister Dottie S. Dixon. Where did the
idea come from for the production?
Fran: Troy
Williams and Charles Frost brought the concept to the Board of Pygmalion. Sister
Dottie was a personality that they developed for KRCL-FM, and they did many,
many five-minute "Dottiesodes" on RadioActive. This premise: to tell a Mormon
woman's passion (in the Joan of Arc tradition) was clearly within our mission
statement. And let's face it Mormons and gays usually sell well in Utah. And it
was a comedy, what could be better? Dottie was already very popular -
particularly in the GLBQT population, and with KRCL listeners. We signed on to
produce the show, and Pygmalion became a key player in the development
process.
Gavin:
What was the reaction to its success when it was finished, and how has the
company been affected since wrapping up the last
season?
Fran: Certainly heightened visibility; which
is a great thing! We got three Arty Award nominations - also very nice. The show
was our biggest money-maker, but also cost us the most (the films, powerpoint,
photography was not inexpensive), and we brought in some out of town talent to
help us get the show mounted (Laurie Mecham - script doctor and co-director).
The show really got us noticed. How the company is affected really remains to be
seen this season. What will sales be like for all our shows? How will season
ticket sales go?
Gavin: You're about to enter the
company's ninth season. What have you got coming up this year?
Fran:
We are bringing back Sister Dottie this Fall -- Charles and Troy have
tightened the first act, added a new film portion - "The History of Mormonism in
one minute" and a new scene for Act II. This winter, we are doing
Lady Day At Emerson's Bar & Grill - a cabaret-type show
about Billie Holiday. It is one woman and a piano player - representing one of
Billie Holiday's last gigs in the last year of her life - 1959. It is a
remarkably joyful show about this iconic American singer. The spring show is
Sordid Lives. We did it a couple of years ago, and it was
such a hit we really had to bring it back. The tag line is that it is a "dark
comedy about white trash.” It is a funny, funny show - the women's roles are
magnificent - but so are the men's. Brother Boy, who has a spiritual connection
with Tammy Wynette is a lovely, touching, silly character. Generally we wouldn't
do two repeats in the same season, but we had already slotted Sordid
Lives for a
come-back, and we just have to do strike while the proverbial iron is hot with
Sister Dottie, before she goes on tour. We are also
work-shopping a wonderful script about growing older and leaving the family
home: The Coming Ice Age by Elaine Jarvik. It is slotted to open our 2010
Season. It is a gorgeous piece of writing that we are going to have the
privilege of helping her turn into a lovely play. In the summer we plan to work
again with the Utah Pride Center to bring The Breast Dialogues to the
stage. This is the fifth year that UPC has sponsored the one-day only
performance. Women perform their own monologues about their relationships with
their breasts - which are very, very varied. UPC received a Susan Koman grant to
help develop the scripts, which are written with the help of the Community
Writing Center. Last year Pygmalion sponsored the evening at the Rose Wagner
Black Box, and Shellie Waters - from our Board - directed the performance as
part of our donation to the event.
Gavin: A
little state-wide, what are your thoughts on local theater, both good and
bad?
Fran: There is a remarkable amount of good
theatre in our itty-bitty state. What Fred Adams did in Cedar City is monumental
- who'd have thought he could make a Tony-Award winning Shakespearean Festival
in Cedar City, Utah? The edgier stuff, of course, is in Salt Lake Valley.
Several theatre companies produce thought-provoking theatre, most of which is
written by non-Utah writers. This is good; Utahns need to have their
world-vision expanded. Mind you, I don't know that Utahns are much more
provincial that most other Americans, but we are certainly provincial.
Ironically, the LDS Church is the biggest arts supporter in the state, but they
also have a very conservative idea of what is appropriate art. They encourage
their children to learn how to act and sing and dance: to perform. As a result -
we have an amazing talent pool, particularly for a state our size, and very good
training programs. But an awful lot of what is staged is musicals and
time-honored comedies. Most of what goes on the stages in Utah (and probably in
a lot of America) is "safe" theatre, and by safe I don't just mean language, sex
or violence -- I mean safe in that it doesn't really challenge the audience to
think outside their comfort zones. In my humble opinion, Americans have a pretty
anti-intellectual tradition: we get bored easily; we want to be entertained. I
do. I think any theatre producer who needs to fill a house has to recognize
that. This year we are trying to do some of both - entertainment with social
commentary. A lot of the best original theatre we do in Utah is commentary on
our own culture … the challenge is making it universal enough to have it
translate outside the Zion Curtain.
Gavin:
Is there anything you believe could be done to improve
it?
Fran: I don't know that we need to improve it,
maybe just broaden the selections. That said, I wish our state would do a better
job of selling how great our art is to the local audiences. We have fabulous
theatre happening at the larger venues as well as the smaller stages. I see PTC
and the Shakespearean Festival bringing some great classics -- and in PTC's case
- original and new work to audiences. The smaller stages have the luxury of
doing the riskier stuff because we don't have to sell as many tickets. We do
have to sell enough tickets, however, to stay in business. The County did a
study that indicated a need for more "Rose Wagner" type facilities across the
Valley. I hope, that if those spaces are built, that in addition to seeing more
Forever Plaid and Joseph & The Amazing
Technicolor Dream Coat, we will see companies who are daring to do more
adventurous work -- even in the suburbs. We just need to find a way to entice
enough people to see more than the old chestnuts, or Broadway
musicals.
Gavin: How do you feel about the
recent moves to “bring Broadway” to Utah?
Fran: Well,
it certainly won't interfere with Pygmalion audiences. The
bigger question is can Salt Lake City support a huge theatre downtown, as well
as the other existing venues? I mean this both in terms of the actual physical
space as well as programmatically. Utah constituents might want to see Broadway
musicals in a wonderful new theatre, but I doubt they want to pay for the
on-going operations and maintenance of said space. And, if I were in the
business of producing those big local shows, I would be very concerned about it
siphoning off audiences. I remember a structural engineer once telling me that,
"we save our money to go to the really good shows when they come to town - you
know Cats and Les Mis. In this economy of limited discretionary
time and income, it is a big concern. One would hope that there would be enough
butts to put in all the seats, but I am really leery. I know how
hard it is to sell tickets. Of course, if it is built, we'd love to be on the
architectural team...
Gavin: Do you feel like local
high schools and colleges do enough for their performing arts departments as of
late?
Fran: Probably not - but that is a pretty
intuitive answer. I can only speak to personal experience with the University of
Utah's Theatre Department - which is seems quite under-funded - and has much
less enticing facilities to work in than many of the high schools in town and
virtually every higher education institution in the state. But, with the U and
all these publicly funded programs and facilities, where is the money going to
come from for more programming, more faculty and better facilities, particularly
now? It would be great to pour more resources into our public performing arts
education. I think the students would benefit, the audiences would benefit, even
allied fields would benefit. Elected bodies, however, see the benefit as very
secondary to educational fields that put students immediately into the
workforce. I think there is a lot of evidence of positive economic impact in our
community through the performing arts, but in these hard times money is going to
go first to medicine, the sciences and applied technical fields. I always say
that art doesn't cure cancer, but it might make you feel better for a little
while. That isn't a really persuasive argument to the
legislature.
Gavin: What can we expect from you and
the company the rest of the year?
Fran: I hope to
continue to attract people to be involved in the company as artistic staff,
board members and volunteers who are dedicated to both good theatre and our
mission. That is perhaps my largest goal in the coming year. I am stoked about
The Coming Ice Age - and seeing it
develop and change through the year. It is a type of interactive, on-going
artistic process of theatre that I hope to always be a part of. It is going to
be great to work with such a gifted writer as Elaine, and see where her vision
takes her. As for me … well, I am directing two of the shows, finishing up my
term on the Pride Center Board, trying to sell a lot of green architecture, and
perfecting my trot to canter transitions on my horse.
Gavin:
Aside from the obvious, is there anything you'd like to plug or
promote?
Fran: Funding for the arts and arts
education; and the return of the two-party system in
Utah!