After
the predictable car-wreck that was Christmas and having to shovel
myself out of six inches of powder, I needed a show to cleanse the
palate. And did I choose wisely!
--- Heading overt to Kilby Court
the day after (and seeing that they were just as buried in snow as I
was), I got to warm myself by the fire and enjoy what would have been
one of the CD release shows for The Future Of The Ghost. But due to
some setbacks that album will now be out in a couple months. But
watching FOTG play their hearts out is still a sight to behold. I've
already chatted with those guys this year, so I got to talk to the
other acts of the night and take photos of the entire show. First up
was the jam-session oriented Solar Euphoria, followed by the
indie-rock favorites Patter Stats.
Solar
Euphoria
http://www.myspace.com/solareuphoria
Gavin: Hey there, first off, tell us who you are and a little about
yourself.
Scott: My
name is Scott Michael Lookinland. I don't know, I'm not good at these
and they always come out sounding strange.
Gavin: Who were some of your favorite acts and
musical influences growing up?%uFFFD
Scott: There's a great story about this. When I
was 6 and just getting into music, I discovered (thanks to the radio
I assume) The Backstreet Boys. I made my mother take me when
they came to the Delta Center. A month or so later, my parents
took me to another concert at the Delta Center, real music they
called it. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young... I never looked back. I
started to go through my parents' CD's and records. Following in my
father's footsteps I became a devout Deadhead. While also mixing
in the old standards like Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Yes, The Beatles,
etc. Later on I discovered some of the great names of our time -
Radiohead, The Flaming Lips, The Unicorns, Modest Mouse, Beck, etc.
And more recently - Kayo Dot, Stars Of The Lid, Mount Eerie. There
are too many, I only listed a few, The Highlights. There are surely
some I forgot, but I hope that gives you an idea.
Gavin: What made you decide to form Solar
Euphoria?
Scott: There was never really a decision
besides realizing that I liked to play music. I've been in many
projects, and the greatest part about all of them was that everyone
was just friends, brought together by that common interest - we all
loved to play and had fun doing it. %uFFFDAs is the case
today.
Gavin: Why did you choose to make it a
solo-type project instead of a full band?
Scott: We are only a solo group
in the sense that all of the songs we play, I wrote. But what others
bring to it is stuff I could never do or come up with. It's
great! It becomes their music too and different people
bring different things. We all have fun and that's what it's really
about.
Gavin: Do you have a set group of people you
play with, or do you rotate people out for different sounds?
Scott: Usually my brother drums. Not only have
we adapted style-wise to one another, but we live
together allowing for near constant jams/practices. Other
than that, it's up in the air. Everyone is welcome.
Gavin: You're unsigned right now. Are you
looking for a label, or will you continue to be independent?
Scott: I don't know... Back in the day, without
a major label's help, you would have no hope of getting your name
out, distribution, etc. But today, with file sharing and instant
world wild communication... it's just not a necessity. You
don't even need a studio anymore if you know what you're doing and
have the right equipment, you can make recordings that are just as
good in your living room. Looking for - No. If they came to me
I'd have to consider it, but who would own the music? Who
gets paid what? Why? And do I really want their corporate logo on my
CD?
Gavin: Are there any plans for an album at the
moment or are you just sticking to playing gigs for now?
Scott: To date, I have composed 3 full length
albums under the title Solar Euphoria - I just haven't been able to
record them either because of lack of equipment or time or
persistence. It's unfortunate but society's demands get in the way -
I just need to be locked in an empty house with all my toys for a
month. But who will front the bill? So yes, there are plans, but
there will always be shows.
Gavin: A little state-wide, what are your
thoughts on the local music scene, both good and bad?
Scott: A lot of good music is made here, but a
lot of bad music is also made here. Oh well. We have a slew of great
venues and big names often come through. There could be more local
support, community spirit, I don't know. People need to dance
more.
Gavin: Is there anything you believe could be
done to make it better?
Scott: Yes! My big thing of late is a need to
help weave this community of inspiring locals tighter. Big
group jams. Idea exchange.You know... help each other out more.
Let's get a real, great, friendly scene going here.
Gavin: Who would you say are the best acts in
our scene now?
Scott: I would say Ether for sure, timeless. I
love what Will Sartain and The Future Of The Ghost do. Great
stuff. I finally got to see The Periodic Table of Funk recently...
blew my mind. I always love to see The Vile Blue Shades. It's all
great, danceable stuff. And wonderful people too. Check out Lard
Boy and Dramione, two great guys with wonderful
ideas.
Gavin: Moving to the music industry, tell us
what your thoughts are on it in general and the current state it's
in?
Scott: Music shouldn't be about money, people
who make music just to make money end up making terrible music. It
has no... soul. It's a shame that that's what it's become. I play
because I love it, I have fun. More people should do things for
that reason alone and quit doing the things they feel obligated to,
especially for money or social status. Feel free. People need to
let go.
Gavin: What do you think of the current trends
in music that are getting radio play today?
Scott: I hate the radio. I don't want to hear
the same ten terrible songs over and over again. I also don't want to
hear one song separated from its intended series. When an artist creates something, it's meant to exist as a
whole. Listening to just the song "Wish You Were Here"
exclusive of the album would be like cutting up "Guernica"
into many pieces and only looking at one. Of course that's very
idealistic and some stations are better than others. Still, I don't
listen to the radio often.
Gavin: What's your opinion on file sharing and
how it affects you as a musician?
Scott: Torrenting is great. I'm sick of
copyright laws, they dampen creativity and once again, it's all about
money. I figure most people are like me. If they find something
that's really great, even if they could get it for free, they
will inevitably buy a hard copy, directly from the artist
if possible. Not only to show their support, but to own a piece of
history.
Gavin: What can we expect from you guys over
the next year?
Scott: Lots of shows. Lots of free shows as
well (parks, parties, coffee shops, etc). I've been recording a lot
of our live shows, and by summer hope to have a compilation. Not
a best of... more of a collage. Oh... and maybe a light
show.
Gavin: Is there anything you'd like to promote
or plug?
Scott: Show-wise... Concerts First invited us
to play in a battle of the band at In The Venue on the 28th of
February. It's a big deal for us, big venue. So far, that's all
we know. They said they'd get back to us after the holidays,
I'll keep you posted. Our 'space page would be the best place to
check for upcoming shows. We love to play parties... call us! In
general, I would like to promote the concepts of the creative
process, idea exchange, having fun, etc. And in an effort to
help weave our valley's scene tighter... an invitation - Come jam
with us! Come have fun.
Patter
Stats
http://www.myspace.com/patterstats
Gavin:
Hey guys, first off, tell us who you are and a little
about yourselves.
Patrick B: We are just four dudes,
with four different backgrounds, who like to play our
instruments.
Gavin:
Who were some of your favorite acts and
musical influences growing up?
Patrick B: I grew up
with many different influences. My father is a product of the 1960's
so, naturally, I grew up with a lot of that music. Neil Young is
someone who I grew up with, particularly his album “After The Gold
Rush” which is still one of my favorites. He also introduced me to
a lot of “world” music; mostly Latin and African, as well as
various classical genres. My brother is a product of the nineties so
I also listened to a lot of 90's grunge and alternative. Pearl Jam
and Smashing Pumpkins were two bands that stick out. It wasn’t
until high school when I started getting interested in Jazz and what
we call “Indie-Rock”. Since then it has been a lot of J.J.
Johnson and Stan Getz, among various other groups. One of my favorite
records is Getz/Gilberto- by Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto.
James
C: I love every genre of music and I’m constantly rediscovering
music that I grew up listening to. When I was learning how to play
the bass, I was listening to an eclectic collection of music ranging
from Tool to The Disco Biscuits to Medeski,Martin and Wood. Playing
in a Jazz band throughout high school has exposed me to great
bassists such as Jaco Pastorious, Bootsy Collins, Ray Brown and Ron
Carter, while my interest in rock has kept my ear towards Flea, Les
Claypool, John Paul Jones and the like. Hip-hop has also influenced
me : Jay-Z, Doomtree, Blue Scholars and De La Soul are all class
acts.
Gavin:
How did you get together and decide to form
Patter Stats?
Patrick B: I k new Adam and another
friend Patrick (not our current drummer) from their old band
Whiskey’s Wake and through a mutual acquaintance. Patrick called me
and asked if I was interested in playing with them so I showed up and
there was Patrick MaGuire (our current drummer). We messed around for
a few months, not accomplishing anything. Eventually Patrick left the
group and it just the three of us (Adam, Patrick MaGuire and myself).
We played around a bit as a trio until James, a friend from high
school, joined and created the lineup we currently have.
James
C: Affirmative.
Gavin:
You've got an indie-rock sounds, but you
have tracks that come off as ska. What inspired that kind of
sound?
Patrick B: I think the ska thing was
unintentional, but it makes sense. I think it mostly comes from
Patrick MaGuire’s background. As displayed by his ever-present
Aquabat Cadet Faction t-shirt, he really likes ska. I also have
listened to ska in high school, but I don’t think it is that
prevalent of an influence on me. I did play the trumpet on our album
however.
Gavin:
You put out your self-titles album last
year. What was it like recording it?
Patrick B: It was
the longest process I have ever gone through, taking about a year
total from start to finish. It was also a huge learning experience. I
had never recorded anything serious before that project so there was
a lot of experimentation. It was a great experience though. I love to
see the transformation a song makes from initial concept to final
product. A lot of the time the final product is very different from
what you initially intended.
James C: Word.
Gavin:
The album was pretty much a DIY project.
Did you wish you had some additional help or a label to put it out
on, or do you prefer doing things that way for the creative
control?
Patrick B: With the exception of mixing,
which was done by Jeff Adams at Archive Studios, the album was
entirely DIY. It was definitely positive to do whatever you want as a
lot of times the songs only came together through the recording
process. We were really able to experiment with different parts and
sounds and whatnot. I also think that was kind of a detriment to the
process, as it took us forever to do. I would have been great to have
help from a label, particularly in the financial aspect. If we had a
bigger budget (or any budget) we could have gotten a much greater
quality of recording. We were very limited as to what we could do to
get a good sound because we didn’t have the knowledge or the
equipment to do so. That where Jeff Adams helped a lot. He made it
sound a lot better than our raw recordings.
James C: As
Pat said before, making our first album was a learning experience.
We now know what we do in the studio will turn out sounding like in
the final product. Now that we know that, we can change our sound as
we see fit. I really like the hands-on experience of recording a
song and having it all come together in the end.
Gavin:
What was the public reaction like when you
put it out?
Patrick B: There really wasn’t a public
reaction. Most of the people who bought it were our friends. Most of
the feedback we received was about the quality of the recordings, and
sometimes the quality of my singing voice. The feedback about the
actual music was generally very positive.
Gavin:
You're unsigned right now. Are you looking
for a label, or will you continue to be independent?
Patrick
B: We are not actively looking for a label, but if something
comes along I am sure we would greatly consider it.
James
C: I want a lawyer...
Gavin:
Are there any plans in the works for
another album, or just sticking or playing shows at the
moment?
Patrick B: We have actually just started
recording the next album. We are still trying to find the most
efficient way to make it, so there is no projected completion
date.
Gavin:
A little state-wide, what are your thoughts
on the local music scene, both good and bad?
Patrick B:
I think we have a great and diverse scene. There is a lot to choose
from despite the fact that the scene itself is very small. For the
most part, bands really support each other and, from my experience,
there is very little completion. I think Salt Lake has started to
develop its own sound and, in my opinion, it is a great
sound.
Gavin:
Is there anything you believe could be done
to make it better?
Patrick B: I think the best thing
that could be done is for people to achieve a greater appreciation
for the scene. It is a good one.
Gavin:
Who would you say are the best acts in our
scene now?
Patrick B: In no particular order: Tolchock
Trio, The Future of the Ghost, Band Of Annuals, Mushman, and The
Glinting Gems
Gavin:
Moving to the music industry, tell us what
your thoughts are on it in general and the current state it's
in?
Patrick B: I think it is depressing. The main
stream music industry is in a terrible state. In ye olde tymes (18th
and 19th centuries) music was considered to be a pure and
total art. It was also considered to be a very sophisticated means of
expression and communication. One had to really invest themselves in
a piece in order to find its true depth and meaning. It was also
extremely expressive. This is particularly so with the Romantic era.
I think all of these things are disappearing. Our society is based so
firmly upon the philosophy of instant gratification that we no longer
want to have to invest ourselves as we did before. As a result, the
quality of the art has greatly diminished. Because of overexposure
(radio, grocery stores, etc.) we now listen to music as though it is
a background activity. I think that a lot of Salt Lake bands are
doing a great job of avoiding the creation of mediocre background
music and pushing their art into something sophisticated and real. It
gives me hope.
James C: It really disappoints me to
know that once bands are signed, sometimes they are manipulated by
their labels to produce a sound that is popular, and that will sell
more albums. I really like all the independent record labels that
are out there that encourage creativity.
Gavin:
What do you think of the current trends in
music that are getting radio play today?
Patrick B:
Again, I find them very depressing. I do not listen to the radio
often but when I do I find that I am disappointed in the quality of
the new music that is being played. It has even become difficult for
me to filter through the homogeneity of everything and determine what
is good. The radio is too overwhelming for me so I generally don’t
listen. It is hard for me to really digest a song when it is in that
format.
James C: I’ve stopped listening to the
radio, because I don’t like the annoying commercials and hearing
the same five songs over and over again. It doesn’t bother me that
bands don’t get radio play.
Gavin:
What's your opinion on file sharing and how
it affects you as a musician?
Patrick B: I,
personally, don’t have a problem with file sharing. I think artists
should just be glad that their music being heard. At this point that
is all that I care about. It is, of course, nice to recoup some of
the money you spend on making a record, but giving away some of your
music isn’t a big deal. I don’t really utilize file sharing
because the presentation of music is very important to me. I prefer
to understand the album in the context of the artwork and track
ordering. Perhaps my opinions would change if I were to make it in
the big times. For now I am happy.
James C: Again…I
want a lawyer. Haha! I think that file sharing is great for
smaller bands that are just starting out because it gets their name
around easier. However, If a band is making a living on their album
sales alone (a very unlikely scenario), I could see how that would
anger some musicians.
Gavin:
What can we expect from you guys over the
next year?
Patrick B: A new album and numerous epic
shows.
James C: Maybe some German goth metal...
Gavin:
Is there anything you'd like to promote or
plug?
Patrick B: Buy the Fleet Foxes record. You will
not be disappointed…unless you are. Then I am sorry I recommended
it to you.
James C: Doomtree. Awesome hip hop group
from the Midwest. Also, if you like ATHF, I would suggest purchasing
the newest season.