Professional
wrestling isn’t just withheld to basic cable, you can find it right
here in Utah!
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Among the groups that have started up in recent years, ACW Wrestling
has been one of the few independent promotions that has managed to
stay alive and continued to bring live local wrestling to a local
venue near you. Currently in its fifth year the group is pressing
forward to make itself the best local promotion Utah has to offer,
which is good news since our state was widely ignored by the old
territory system and has yet to even host a pay-per-view event of
from major promotion. I got a chance to talk with ACW’s Chad Bryant
about the promotion, issues in wrestling today, his thoughts on the
major promotions, and some other stuff that came to mind.
Chad
Bryant
http://www.acwwrestling.com
Gavin:
Hey Chad, first off, tell us a little about yourself.
Chad:
Well, I'm 32, and I've lived in the Salt Lake City area for most of
the last ten years. As far as professional wrestling goes, I've been
following it for a good portion of my life, and pretty regularly for
over twenty years. I have done everything from wrestling to managing
to what I'm doing currently, which is working as the host and ring
announcer for ACW.
Gavin: For those who don't know,
what is the ACW?
Chad: American Championship Wrestling
of Utah is an independent professional wrestling promotion started by
my good friend Nic Hardy in early 2003. By "independent",
it essentially means that we don't claim any affiliation with any
larger promotion or organization, such as WWE or the National
Wrestling Alliance (NWA). The NWA name for many years had a lot of
meaning, but the criteria for membership now just isn't what it used
to be.
Gavin: You wrestled before in other groups, what
made you decide to start your own?
Chad: There were a
lot of factors that went into the decision to start ACW. Most
notably, there were a number of talented performers in and around
Utah who for one reason or another were not active at the time, and
having a promotion available to them that was being run the right way
did a lot to coax them back "into the fold", so to
speak.
Gavin: Was it difficult starting up or did
things come together rather easy?
Chad: It was actually
quite difficult for a couple of years. Professional wrestling done
the right way with proper equipment and promotion will cost a lot of
money. If you were to start a promotion tomorrow, you'd be out
several thousands of dollars before you ever even put on a show.
Truth be told, a number of people have come along in this area over
the past several years and proclaimed that they were going to start
their own promotion. Then they dig in and find out, usually the hard
way, that they're in for a long period of spending money, spending
money, and then spending some more money. The majority of these
groups last maybe one or two shows before they throw in the towel and
are never heard from again. The fact that there is even a regional
circuit here in Utah is due in large part to the stubbornness and
tenacity of a very few people who had an idea and did what they had
to do to see it through.
Gavin: Did you have to
construct the ring yourself or were you able to find one? And in the
end how much did it cost you to get everything put together and ready
to go?
Chad: There are a few companies around the
country that specialize in the construction of pro wrestling rings.
We were able to secure one from a company based in North Carolina,
which cost about as much as a down payment on a nice car. If you add
up that with all of the money invested in promotions and such, Nic
Hardy would probably own said car by now.
Gavin: Have
you set up any kind of training, or is just not something you can do
at the moment?
Chad: We have run training classes and
sessions in the past, and we are looking to do so in the
future.
Gavin: If someone wants to start wrestling,
what would you suggest to them to prepare for that?
Chad:
The first thing I'd suggest anyone who wants to make a serious effort
in wrestling is to know the history of the business, have a knowledge
of the current product, and be prepared to sacrifice a lot in the way
of lifestyle and personal comfort in order to dedicate yourself to
the business. It is to your advantage to learn what to and what not
to eat, how to train properly both on your own and in a gym, and what
supplements are good and what should be avoided. And before anyone
asks, pretty much any "supplement" that would get you
kicked out of the Olympics is one you want to avoid.
Chad:
I'd also suggest forgetting everything you've ever read on the
internet about the "inside workings" of the business,
because 95% of what is online is pure garbage manufactured by very
ill-informed "reporters" who take bits and pieces from
legitimate newsletters and trade publications and add their own
conjecture. There is a reason a lot of the people who are actually in
the business hate the internet wrestling culture - they're simply
tired of any loser in his parents' basement or a trailer in the
middle of Hogswallow, Kentucky thinking they're an "insider"
because they have their own little rasslin' website.
Gavin:
Do you guys do all your own promotion and booking, or do you go
through someone to take care of it all?
Chad: The
production of independent wrestling shows is almost always done
in-house. We put the shows together, we book the talent needed for
the shows, and we promote the events.
Gavin: You don't
just cover Utah; you cover most of the mountain states. Was that done
for the fact that those places don't really have mainstay
organizations or more because you wanted to have more area like the
old territories?
Chad: We've more or less concentrated
on Utah, but we are always looking for opportunities to expand our
base of operations.
Gavin: Expanding a little to the
sport in general, what do you say to people who say "it's fake"
or "you're not real athletes"?
Chad: I
remember as a kid watching the AWA's ESPN show, and one of the
commentators challenged anyone at home who didn't believe that what
was taking place in the ring required physical and athletic ability
to get off the couch and try jumping around for twenty or thirty
minutes without a break. That's the same thing I'd suggest now. I'd
also suggest that anyone who thinks that pro wrestling doesn't hurt
try stepping into a ring and letting someone body slam them. Then I'd
suggest they get up and let someone else body slam them
again.
Gavin: When it comes to injuries, pro-wrestling
seems to have frequent issues with taking bumps and hitting spots
wrong. Does it feel like there's more of a risk factor, or do you
think of it as par-for-the-course like any other sport would?
Chad:
Wrestling is traditionally a battle of good versus evil taking place
inside of a ring. The "psychology", or the art of telling a
logical, coherent story can be as simple as "Guy A doesn't like
Guy B, so they're going to fight". As long as something like
that is there, you're okay. I think the tendency in the past ten
years or so has been to replace the "psychology" with what
a lot of the old-timers would call "flippy-floppy bullcrap",
or in worse cases, the "hardcore" or "extreme"
element. Guys really aren't telling better stories with high-risk
activities, they're no longer telling any kind of story except "watch
how many different ways we can jump off the top rope, and then Jim
Bob will hit me in the head with this chair that he's set on fire and
scrape a cheese grater across my face". That's not professional
wrestling, that's just blatant stupidity. Professional wrestling is
supposed to be a performance, since it is first and foremost an
athletic endeavor, so injuries are bound to occur. However, it should
never be the intent of the people involved to hurt themselves or each
other. If you are replacing actual ring work with stunts that all but
guarantee that you're going to be injured, you're a bigger sucker
than any of the "marks" in the audience.
Gavin:
. What are your thoughts on blading in wrestling, and do you think it
even has a place nowadays in the sport?
Chad: The art
of using some sort of sharp object to produce blood on demand has
been a part of wrestling since most of the folks currently in the
business have been involved, and goes along with creating the
illusion that what is going on is really a fight, while making sure
that the people involved can go on to the next town and work on the
next show. That said, it's also evolved into another prop for
barely-trained or lazy wrestlers to throw into a match instead of
telling a story. There are promoters now who will throw blood into
just about every match on a show they produce, which does nothing but
kill the illusion. If everyone on a show bleeds, it's not special,
and the fans are conditioned to just not care.
Gavin: A
little on mainstream, what are your thoughts on the current state of
WWE, both good and bad?
Chad: I've come to expect a
fair amount of rubbish in WWE programming while they continue to
chase the elusive "casual fan", so as long as I go into an
episode of their TV product with that expectation, I'm usually not
too offended.
Gavin: Same questions, but on smaller
promotions like TNA and Ring Of Honor.
Chad: TNA
frustrates me almost to the point where I don't even want to watch,
because while they can put together some great pay-per-view shows,
their TV show, outside of the flashes of brilliance being put into
the ladies' division, is almost unbearable to watch. That has
everything to do with their primary creative input being a one-trick
pony who constantly attempts to create a backstage-centric "WWE
Lite" show, when the strength of the promotion is in what they
do in the ring.
Gavin: Do you ever believe the National
Wrestling Alliance will be relevant again, or are they destined to
die off like the territories before them?
Chad: The
name means nothing. It's been on life support since the name all but
disappeared from national TV in the early 1990s, and now that TNA no
longer borrows the initials for their top championships, it's pretty
much worthless. Of course, you will always have a few money-mark
promoters who believe it still means something, so they'll put the
"NWA" initials on their t-shirts and their posters, but if
you're still doing the same pointless shows in church parking lots in
front of 30 people, all the money you paid to use those initials
could have been much better spent actually securing a good venue for
your shows and paying the talent you've used and abused to build your
promotion in the first place.
Gavin: Just offhand, what
do you think of the local MMA circuit and promotions like Ultimate
Combat Experience?
Chad: I think mixed martial arts is
the here and now of combat sports. Outside of a few pockets of
interest, boxing is as good as dead in the United States, and you're
just not going to see a lot of interest in it amongst the younger
generation. MMA is what is hip and what is getting the
twenty-something’s with lots of disposable income to pay attention.
That's why the MMA groups here have done well. I went to Hooters for
a UFC broadcast about two months ago, and there wasn't an empty seat
in the house. There is definitely a market here to be successful
with.
Gavin: Is there anything you believe could be
done to make pro-wrestling better in Utah?
Chad: We
could definitely use venues more willing to host wrestling shows,
because that has been a problem in years past. I'd say even more that
we could always use even more people working in the business here who
are completely and totally committed to it. Some people get in and
just want to be a star, and have no interest in really giving of
themselves in order to help both themselves and the local scene as a
whole.
Gavin: What can we expect from ACW the rest of
the year?
Chad: We're going to be working hard to
finish the year strong with the best wrestling shows Utah has ever
seen.
Gavin: Anything you'd like to plug?
Chad:
We do have a website
that we invite anyone interested in Utah wrestling to visit. We post
show results as well as upcoming show dates. A number of ACW folks
will also be appearing for a new Utah-area promotion called American
X-treme Wrestling
on August 23rd, at the Dow James Building in Tooele. For more info on
that you can visit their website.