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Palin's target list, marijuana, Jared Loughner and insanity

by Jesse Fruhwirth
- Posted // 2011-01-10 -

He's lost touch with the few friends he had, administrators suspended him from school, classmates speculated that he could be violent and yet it's possible that 22-year-old Jared Loughner had not had a mental health intervention. Tragedy, indeed.

It's certainly a tragedy for the six people shot dead Saturday in Tuscon, as well as Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords who was shot critically but is still alive. For now, I can't help but feel really bad about and for Loughner as well. Here's the best piece written about him, citing many sources who've known him in the last year, including a 52-year-old classmate who wrote an e-mail to friends that Loughner seemed like the crazy type that could become violent. She wrote last spring:

We have a mentally unstable person in the class that scares the living crap out of me. He is one of those whose picture you see on the news, after he has come into class with an automatic weapon. Everyone interviewed would say, Yeah, he was in my math class and he was really weird. I sit by the door with my purse handy. If you see it on the news one night, know that I got out fast...

There really is little point in speculating why Loughner did this, especially since there are so many signs pointing to mental health issues. Many times humans are not in touch with their own motivations for their actions--even so-called "sane" individuals--so there's little point in speculating whether Sarah Palin's "target list" had anything to do with it (I doubt it, personally). Mental health patients with paranoia may, for example, believe that Nazis are hiding in their next-door neighbor's home and attack it on that basis (as seen in the episode of Frontline below). Is that Sarah Palin's fault, too? Is that anyone's fault?

I think most people trying to link this shooting to the rancorous political debate in our country are mostly ignorant of mental health, or maybe they're bent on vengeance and "justice" and so claims of insanity are inconvenient, or perhaps they just hate conservatives and this seems like good opportunity to make those meanies at FoxNews look bad. Watch this logic, however: some sources say Loughner for a time was a regular pot smoker, so we may as well blame a combination of FoxNews and marijuana for the killing spree. That makes about as much sense as blaming video games for the Columbine shooting.

This is my humble plea to set aside rationality from the conversation until we know that Loughner was, at the time of the shooting, rational himself. If he was not rational, and I think there's good reasons to think that maybe he was not, then there's nothing to be gained from imposing rationality on his motives.

Since I've already had this conversation, I know what some of you are thinking: Yes, well, maybe Loughner was/is crazy, but Palin/FoxNews/whoever's violent speech helped him pick his target/prodded him forward." Some people then argue that we need to reassess our rhetoric and take it down a notch. Sorry, but I'm unsympathetic to the idea that I need to censor my comments based on the premise that someone crazy might be reading them and misinterpret my "target list" for removal from Congress as a death list. It's not my, nor your, responsibility to ensure that you will be understood by everyone because, well, it's a useless game.

I urge you to watch the following episode of Frontline. It's only tangentially related to this situation--it talks more about the revolving jail door for mental health patients who can't function in society and basically no one to help them do so--but I think it highlights the purely irrational essence of some crimes committed by mentally ill individuals.

Was Loughner just a little ill, so he was disturbed but well aware that what he was doing was wrong? Perhaps. Time will tell. Until then, stop blaming Sarah Palin.

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Posted // January 10,2011 at 22:02

In the crowd, there were people with weaons.

Where WERE they, when Loughner started shooting? Since they did NOTHING, why did they bother wearing their guns to the rally?

Meanwhile, a GAY MAN had the real male cojones to help save Rep Giffords.

AND...check our the Loughner family situation:

An only child

Mother works, dad stays home and works on cars.

House is unkempt, among tidy homes.

Family kept to themselves.

Neighbors didn't know their last name!

Wait until the family dynamics come out. The anti-gubmint screeds Loughner posted, came from somewhere.


Posted // January 15,2011 at 11:35 - Actually, JR, that's not the point, not my point at least. My point is that everyone is missing the most important issue here. We should reflect on this situation and try to prevent future incidents. That will involve politics. Personally, from the first moment I heard it, I thought this debate over civility was disrespectful to the dead because it's so far beyond the debate we probably need to have to really help situations like this. Civility is an insidious distraction.


Posted // January 12,2011 at 13:25 - Isn't the whole point here NOT to tray and make a political statement out of EVERTHING?!


Posted // January 11,2011 at 09:30 - I love to hear gun lovers say things like,"Had there been more concealed weapons in the crowd, this would have never happened!" Really!?!? So, I'm talking to Giffords and someone walks up behind her and shoots her. I pull my piece out and take aim at him as he runs away firing wildly into the crowd. Two other armed people further down the line only see me aiming my pistol and assume I'm with the shooter and open up on me. Because none of us are professional gun users, bullets are spraying indiscriminately all over the crowd. Soon everyone who's packing draws down and begins firing away at whoever they think, in a moment of sheer, unadulterated panic, the shooter is. Oh, and we have all managed to purchase extended clips so we have lots of ammo. Now,what could possible go wrong? If Giffords herself was packing a f*cking bazooka that day, how do you draw down on someone running up from behind? And who knew Chaffetz felt so unsafe around his own constituents in Utahn that he's going to pack heat when he "visits?" He can't carry in DC, one of the most violent cities in the free world, because of strong enforcement of gun laws, but he can gun-up here in his home state because that's where he's most afraid. . .around his own people.


Posted // January 10,2011 at 15:07

When you say second amendment remedies and put rifle crosshairs on opponents, don't be surprised if one ends up shot. Thanks for your condolences. -Erin Michael Finney


Posted // January 10,2011 at 15:06

"Hey Republicans who r condemning Ariz. shooting - if u didn't condemn Sharon Angle's '2nd amendment remedies' and the like just shut up now." -Bill Maher.