LDS Church: No Lunch for Lawmakers

Non Tax paying persons or organizations should have no say in any business conducted by elected officials.  How many Utah citizens would hace a say inChurch Business?  If you don't vote or do not pay income tax you cannot participate in any process of governments.

I firmly believe that there are valid points by both points of view. My goal is not to insult another's religion by any means. I think I am merely making an observation based on my own expereinces here in Salt Lake. 

Spencerdean,

Is that your real name? After brazenly mis-stating what I said you have become an embarrassment to yourself and may want to consider changing your name. Your egomaniacal nature is showing. Please pardon me if I no longer respond to your religion baiting insults.

The article insinuated politicians are in lock step with the LDS church. I merely pointed out the LDS church does not control political decisions. People need to separate the church from the LDS population. Much of what happens in Utah is because mormon people want it to happen not because the LDS church wants it to happen. In the same way Catholics have a bigger political voice in some eastern cities and Jews have a bigger political voice in New York it would be expected LDS people would have a bigger voice in Salt Lake. Just as politicians check with the Jews and the Catholics before making laws they check with Baptists in the south and Midwest and check with atheists all over. This article is trying to dim the truth and make reality into something else for the author’s own reasons.

I was taught when I was raised that the first person to raise their voice had lost the argument. I find that to be true. I find it interesting the most vitriolic personal attacks in this blog come from someone who is using superlatives to make their argument. Superlatives are usually wrong because they are dumb arguments. The truth is normally a mixture of some of this and some of that. To fully understand something we need to understand it from multiple perspectives. Dumb arguments reflect on the person making them in a poor light. This article is attempting to make a superlative argument and it is no wonder the bloggers blogging about it are doing the same.

There are pluses and minuses to living in anyplace. That is just how life is. I am pleased I have the freedom to choose wherever I want to live. I feel for people who like to dance who move into Baptist areas and find no place to dance. I feel for people who like to drink who move to Utah. It is difficult to live in unfamiliar cultures and change is difficult for all of us. My hope is that I will always be respectful to others even when I disagree with how they are impacting my life and I expect other people to behave the same way. If I had difficulty with where I lived I would try and change it or move away. At least I have the freedom to choose how to behave and where to live.

I just moved to Utah about 7 months ago from PA. In the short time I have lived in downtown Salt Lake City, I have been shocked at the non-diverse community. You immediately can understand or feel the LDS influence throughout the city and obviously politically. I have traveled the country for work and have never experienced such detachment from the rest of the country. To say that the LDS doesnt influence the general population in Salt Lake would be a complete lie. If you research or survey people who have lived in the area and then moved out of the area, all say the same. That people not from the area do not feel like they fit in to the community. I have immediately felt it. Sadly, it progressively gets worse in my opinion. I think the LDS has many great attributes to the city and state. But if you ever plan to have the rest of country accept this area as a viable location to settle. You need to make changes.