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We All Fall Down Page 3

After 9/11, BYU prof. Steven Jones’ teaching career imploded just like the twin towers, but he still insists planes were not to blame.

By Eric S. Peterson
Posted // August 19,2009 -

The Death Star Theory
“Steve is, by far, the most influential member [of the alternative 9/11 research community],” says James Fetzer, the man who, along with Jones, formed in 2005 the first academic 9/11 group, the Scholars for 9/11 Truth. “But, while he likes to think what he practices is science and not politics—its not. And what it is … is completely destructive!”

Fetzer’s beef with Jones arose when he felt Jones was being dismissive of other theories. “I have a Ph.D. in the history and philosophy of science,” Fetzer says. “I know well that scientific inquiry is handicapped if you don’t consider the full range of alternative explanations.”

How broad is this range? For Fetzer, Jones’ controlled-demolition theory unfairly cuts out other ideas, such as the possibility that a directed energy beam, possibly from outer space, hit the towers.
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Since Jones’ theory was more “palatable” than others, Fetzer says Jones won over contributors from the original group into a new group, the Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice. Fetzer also claims Jones sabotaged a 2007 9/11 conference he organized by convincing presenter Frank Greening, a Canadian physicist, not to attend.

While Jones is ordinarily mild-mannered, he quickly grows frustrated hearing Fetzer’s allegations. His good humor disappears, and Jones asks if any theory Fetzer supports can be backed up with an experiment.

Greening sides with Jones. He says he didn’t attend Fetzer’s conference because, at the last minute, Fetzer reneged on covering Greening’s travel expenses—and not because of anything Jones did. But Greening acknowledges that Jones is more politically savvy than he lets on beneath his goodnatured, absent-minded-professor faade.

“He comes across as very meek and mild,” Greening says. “I’ve seen another side of him.” Greening says that, while Jones calls for scientific scrutiny of his theories, when actually challenged he becomes defensive and dismissive of scientific criticism.

Greening, who has a Ph.D. in chemistry and 20-plus years’ research experience in radio-analytical chemistry at Ontario Power Generation, says Jones has never seriously considered his arguments.

For one, Greening cites aluminum experts whose research shows that molten aluminum (such as what could have resulted from the melting heat of jet fuel) falling from extreme heights could have a reaction that would be similar to what Jones attributes to nano-thermite. Greening balks at the experiments Jones uses to refute this claim.

“Jones just gently poured molten aluminum on some rusty girders, and said, ‘I hereby discredit Greening,’” Greening says, pointing out that the experiment called for the aluminum to be dropped from greater than 6 feet. He also notes how Jones quickly leapt to the conclusion that the presence of sulphur in building rubble is evidence of nano-thermite before even considering other sources, such as diesel fuel from the building’s generators. This pattern of jumping to the conspiratorial conclusion is what disturbs Greening about Jones’ methods.

“If history proves him correct, people will say he’s a hero, and he stuck to his guns in the face of ridicule and pressure from everyone to drop it,” Greening says. “And I think he sees himself that way, like he’s a prophet of some top secret he’s revealed. The other side of the coin is that his work is sometimes sloppy. He’s stubborn in admitting error and he jumps to conclusions.”

We All Fall Down
Science can be violent. Trying to carve out the truth from conflicting accounts means some theories get cut down, and at times, even the scientist espousing the theory can be silenced.

Cut off from his university hardly means that Jones is done seeking the truth. And while a man of science, his drive to continue his search is as informed by his faith as it ever was. “The truth cuts its way, and it is getting out,” Jones says, noting his colleague James Farrer is currently giving presentations on the nano-thermite research in Europe.

Yet, even as he pursues truth, he has serious doubts about whether Americans will ever accept his account, and even if they did, if they would ever hold anyone accountable.

“I believe in God, so I know there will be justice someday,” Jones says. “People that allow their leaders to get away with, well, murder—the whole country becomes due for justice. You see this in the Book of Mormon, you see it in the Roman Empire … all these empires get to the point where the tyrant is doing stuff and the citizens do nothing and pretty soon …” Jones says, as he wiped his hands apart, “the empire crumbles.”

For links to Jones' research, articles criticizing his theories, and more, read the related story, Cuts Both Ways.

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Posted // July 8,2010 at 09:20

What a crock. Nanothermite is not an explosive as it produces no shockwave. Watch the experiments Jones taped or the one of Ventura's BS show. Jones repeatedly fakes peer review to avoid real academics from criticizing his work. The Journal of 9/11 Studies is pure example of seeking out people who already agree with you to fake the process; badly at that since many of the "peers" are not experts in what they are reviewing. 9/11 Studies is not a field of research. The publisher (Bentham) of the nanothermite article approved a totally computer generated paper (google: CRAP paper); had 3 editors resign because of their nonexistent standards (1 of which was the editor for the Active Nanothermite paper); and has been cited on numerous accounts of spamming for authors, editors, and referees. No truther experts has published a single journal article in a real journal demonstrating the use of any form of thermite or explosives (even in a theoretical sense), or has been able to refute NIST. There is a reason they can't when there are dozens of journals across the globe which handle the fields relevant to the collapses.

This article and the comments are riddled with truther woo. Any person seriously interested in "the truth" will look at the counter arguments found at the JREF 9/11 forums, 9/11myths[dot]com, wtc7lies[dot]googlepages[dot]com, debunking911[dot]com, ae911ruth[dot]info

All that is left in the truth movement are kooks, wilfully ignorant people, and snakeoil salesmen. Look below, 1 guy compares 2 totally different building designs and caps it off with an argument from incredulity while misrepresenting the collapses since all 3 buildings showed signs of fatigue over time, admits the towers weren't in free fall then makes an analogy about free fall (not to mention he himself doesn't even know wtf free fall is as he said its not a speed, then cites a speed 32 m/s; 9.8 m/s^2 in reality). WTC 7 collapsed for over 15 secs. That's way beyond 1/2 resistance.

Another guy make s vague reference to the PNAC document about a "New Pearl Harbor", but like any good little truther doesn't know what the actual recommendations of the PNAC doc are because he never read it himself. Had he, he would know they weren't calling for a new pearl harbor (post hoc fallacy, and a strawman).

 

Posted // March 23,2011 at 18:17 - "You are aware that Nist admits to acceleration in the collapse of building 7?" You do realize that not 1 person has shown that any amount of FFA must be the result of a CD right?

 

Posted // March 23,2011 at 11:22 - You are aware that Nist admits to acceleration in the collapse of building 7?

 

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Posted // September 14,2009 at 17:23

OK, bldg 7 had something inside that caused or helped it to fall down.

That doesn't mean the two tall buildings had any help, other than two airplanes hitting them full of people and killing thousands.

Jones can't pull the two appart.

I personally met a structural engineer that investigated the buildings right after they let anyone in. He had no question as to why the two towers fell. They were hit be planes. Steel goes "junk" when it gets hot.

When the 1st tower fell, I wondered how long it would take for the 2nd one to fall.

Tower 7, falling (no one was killed in it) was an other matter.

The structural engineer in question had no really good reason for it to come down.

Go ahead, blame tower 7 on the owner dropping it for insurance, or some government agency storing weapons or something else in tower 7, but anyone that thinks that the two tall towers fell was anything other than the planes is nuts.

 

Posted // March 23,2011 at 11:19 - Your remarks are baseless and come from no where. Before the twin towers magically appeared out of the ground, there were these people called engineers. The world trade center towers were built to widstand multiple impacts by airliners. The towers were built to hold up 10x their weight, and also to stand up to hurricane force winds. And for the insanely idiot comment about building 7 not being related to the other two towers. That comment is by far the most ignorant in your post. Using this logic the plane that crashed in pennsyvania, has nothing to do with 9/11. The owner larry silverstien, says on a pbs documentary that a decision was made to pull building 7. Making a decision to let a buildnig collapse that is going to collapse due to damage, isnt a decision. If the building is going to collapse it is. The only decision they could make is to bring it down by their own means. And unless they are using magic, some other mechanism is needed to "bring the tower down". And for beginners, random fire and random damage do not cause a symetric collapses. If you believe they do, please stop using science, like your car and toothbrush and computer. Because faith, not science is what we use not emotional feelings about a "government".

 

Posted // July 8,2010 at 09:34 - "bldg 7 had something inside that caused or helped it to fall down" Its called fire. "The structural engineer in question had no really good reason for it to come down." Others have. See the NIST report, Structure Mag. Both have explained it.

 

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Posted // September 8,2009 at 10:06

I thank God for all the ones that have pushed for the truth ..and stand up for what is right ....And to those who think you can get away with this is so wrong...The Whole Truth will Arise.....

 

Posted // March 23,2011 at 18:01 - "Bill, please share with us the document that has indited al queda or osama bin laden. " In case you weren't aware Khaleid Sheik Mohammed is awaiting trial. " Your "faith" that the government couldnt or wouldnt know is public knowlege to be false. " Bare assertion fallacy & appeal to popularity.

 

Posted // March 23,2011 at 11:28 - Bill, please share with us the document that has indited al queda or osama bin laden. Please share with us the vast documentation that is awaiting the trial of said terrorist. Your "faith" that the government couldnt or wouldnt know is public knowlege to be false. So what trial or court case is pending the arrest of members of al queda. Why have we not had a trial for osama bin laden or alqueda? Where is this "evidence" that osama bin laden is responsible. Please, i think a lot of people are waiting.

 

Posted // July 8,2010 at 09:36 - And Jesus will come back one day...blah blah blah. There is a reason truther arguments are near identical to religious fundamentalists.

 

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Posted // August 24,2009 at 21:19

I recently saw a video called 'Missing Links' - a documentary claiming to show 'the definitive truth of 911'...as a Jewish person I was disgusted and offended as it primarily implicated Jewish people as being the architects of the attack. Jewish kamikazis? Give me a break. Or so I thought....this is a frightening film. There are irrefutable facts presented in this documentary that will enrage anyone who sees it - regardless of your faith or nationality. I am more disgusted and offended now - for terrifyingly different reasons. Unbelievable.

 

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Posted // August 24,2009 at 16:40

"sounds of explosions on 9/11, molten steel at the site, steel beams shooting out horizontally like missiles from the buildings, and the sloppy federal explanations about what happened at World Trade Center 7, the third building that collapsed and the only one that did so without being hit by any planes. "

Well, yeah. We SAW those things happen.

How many idiots does it take to keep a conspiracy going? The same amount that it takes to energize "birthers" or talk about the "grassy knoll".

WTC 7 had about 1/3 of its base knocked out by the flaming debris that hit it....and it didn't help that fuel was stored in the basement.

For all of you Jones supporters: PLEASE give me your email addresses. I'd like to send you some phish, some Nigerian scams, some fun emails to "send to everyone in your address book".

WHY? Because you're gullible enough to fall for those, too.

City Weekly: what happened to journalism, what happened to questioning Jones' theories by looking at the available proof that he's wrong? Are you that desperate, City Weekly, that you think only outliers read you?

Sign me: disgusted

 

Posted // August 25,2009 at 14:29 - CW's comment board sucks technically, by the way, and has ever since it was changed, which may explain why comments here dropped. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Took me two tries to get this posted, lost the first because the thing malfunctioned. The second try, I spaced the paragraphs properly as I always do but once posted, the thing's all jumbled together. Which is just as well since I'm a shit rambler anyway.

 

Posted // August 25,2009 at 14:24 - Laytonian, you're right. It is insane and foolish to think that anybody within the government could ever be so dishonest as to attack their own for gain. That only happens in places like Russia and Cambodia and Myanmar. And others. Maybe you can help me, because I am sort of stupid when it comes to stuff like this. Do you, by chance, have a photo of tower 7's missing base? Also, how do you know there was fuel stored in the basement and if there was, why was there such vast quantities as to contribute to destroying such a large building? What was all that fuel for - powering the emergency generator? And if you have time, could you explain to me how a building, or any object for that matter, that is missing a full third of its support base, could fall into itself perfectly, floor by floor, from the top to the bottom, within 7 seconds, when it should have fallen toward the damaged base, as any chopped tree might do? I know I ask a lot but you seem to have info and knowledge that I don't. I'm sure it's simply a weird coincidence that three massive buildings fell in exactly the same manner, as if intentionally demolished, in a matter of hours. For the sake of good journalism, I agree that this story needed an informed, opposing view point. Somebody within the scientific community, perhaps, willing to refute Jones' theory, piece by piece. But that didn't appear to be the purpose of the story. Please don't send Nigerian scammers my way. I'm just a fool. Thanks, man. Or woman.

 

 
 
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